Lost power to Engine hatch, Bilge pump,Galley pump and Engine room blower

Hi.  

Just sudden the above stopped working at the same time.
I have checked the fuses under steering helm (i guess these pop out if they have some problems?)
Also checked the power breaker at the DC panel. The one for "Helm power" is working, as by tuning this on/off the other functions on the switchboard is affected.

Anyone with any ideas?  Seems strange to me that all these 4 things went out at the same time.

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  • icoulthaicoultha Niskayuna NYPosts: 489Member ✭✭✭
    Have you looked in battery switch box? There are pop out breakers there too.

    Regards,

    Ian

  • RinkerNorwayRinkerNorway Posts: 14Member
    Hi. Yes. with DC panel, I was referring to the panel where the larger power breakers  and battery switch is located.  All pop out breakers there are good.
    :)
  • jhofmannjhofmann ConnecticutPosts: 350Member ✭✭✭
    Sounds like items that would run off the "house battery" you may want to use a jump box to provide power to the engine hatch and check the battery treminals.
  • Dude_HimselfDude_Himself Charleston, SCPosts: 244Member ✭✭✭
    So my brand new house battery lost a cell a few days ago, and I was surprised the house battery runs the blower and genny starter. I would've assumed that would run off the engine battery, so if you drained the battery down overnight, you could still safely start your boat (or at least the genny to charge batteries back up).

    I'm going to have to document where everything goes now, as it doesn't match the electrical sources supplied by the manufacturer. Crap.
  • randy56randy56 Newburgh INPosts: 2,037Member ✭✭✭✭
    @RinkerNorway, I'm not sure if you are aware but you can put power to the two terminals in the switch box to power engine hatch. the picture below, where the two red twist caps are the two thermals. I know this does not fix your problem but at least you will be able to open hatch to investigate. 
    Image result for rinker battery switch
    Boat Name : Knot My Prolem

    2003 - 270
  • RinkerNorwayRinkerNorway Posts: 14Member
    Hi guys.

    i have already checked everything in the engine room without any findings...  all 3 batteries are at 12.5V so should not be battery related, since every other electical installation is working perfect.  

    Could some of the electric components just be hooked up to one of the house batteries, and the rest to the other battery? I thought "everything" was working together with both batteries (?) 

    Appreciate all your help.

  • randy56randy56 Newburgh INPosts: 2,037Member ✭✭✭✭
    If I remember correctly all 4 of the items are on separate breakers, under the steering wheel.  I think I would take that panel lose so you can get to the wires that power's the breakers. test for power.  What boat do you have?
    Boat Name : Knot My Prolem

    2003 - 270
  • Cableguy GregCableguy Greg Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 3,314Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    @RinkerNorway, what boat do you have?
    2008 280 Express Cruiser, 6.2MPI, B3, Pittsburgh, PA
    Go Steelers!!!
  • RinkerNorwayRinkerNorway Posts: 14Member
    Sorry for that. i have a 2007 Rinker 280EC running on tractor fuel(Diesel)  :D
  • Dream_InnDream_Inn Annapolis, MDPosts: 4,303Member, Moderator mod
    oh boy, not sure Handy will be able to keep his excitement down! :)

    Dream 'Inn III -- 2008 400 Express

  • icoulthaicoultha Niskayuna NYPosts: 489Member ✭✭✭
    He may take exception to the agricultural reference though.

    Regards,

    Ian

  • randy56randy56 Newburgh INPosts: 2,037Member ✭✭✭✭
    Handy will be revved up.  
    Boat Name : Knot My Prolem

    2003 - 270
  • Cableguy GregCableguy Greg Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 3,314Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    All 4 run off of the house battery. One thing I found with my 280EC is that the connection at the breaker was loose. It wasn't making good contact, so my house battery wasn't getting charged the way it should. I had to pull out the DC panel and tighten the connections. While I was there, I changed the breakers for the house battery and the starting battery. Here is a link to the wiring diagrams for our boat. They are in PDF form, so feel free to download them. I have used them a few times, so they are great to have.

    http://rinkerboats.vanillaforums.com/discussion/3038/280-ec-wiring-diagram

    2008 280 Express Cruiser, 6.2MPI, B3, Pittsburgh, PA
    Go Steelers!!!
  • Dude_HimselfDude_Himself Charleston, SCPosts: 244Member ✭✭✭
    Double check those wiring diagrams - mine isn't that accurate for which battery powers which circuit. Not sure if it's cause I have an early 280EC run (2007), or if things were changed up by a previous owner.
  • RinkerNorwayRinkerNorway Posts: 14Member
    So..

    Season is nearing, and I need to sort this problem.

    I have removed the main breaker panel and all looks good, even loosened every connector and re-tightened it to ensure good connection.

    since me+Wire diagrams are complete enemies, it has not shed any light on where the problem is located.

    Can anyone check what the main breaker labeled "Steering Helm" actually does? I have tripped it to see what stops working, but other than the things mentioned earlier, everything is working despite that breaker is tripped/unconnected.

    :)


  • Handymans342Handymans342 Cape Coral, FLPosts: 6,185Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    You really need someone who can use a volt meter and I am sure you have a Yanmar diesel??
  • RinkerNorwayRinkerNorway Posts: 14Member
    edited March 24
    Volvo Penta D4-260

    I have a Volt Meter.

    there is Power to both the button/switch for eng hatch along with the small breaker for hatch under the steering helm.

    so seems like it's a bad connection between the breaker at the helm and the actual hatch motor.

    same goes for the Blower switch and water pump.

    I have also checked grounds at the aft "wall" in engine bay, all are good. Is there any other places where stuff are grounded? (already taken out the landpower/fuse cabinet inside the boat, all looks good...


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  • RinkerNorwayRinkerNorway Posts: 14Member
    edited March 24
    Acoording to the wire diagram, this has gotta be where my problem is located. 

    Any idea where to find this connector/connection (connector 10) point?





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  • RinkerNorwayRinkerNorway Posts: 14Member
    Located the problem.

    connector in the middle of the picture had come apart just enough that it had no connection.

    All is working
  • RinkerNorwayRinkerNorway Posts: 14Member
  • aero3113aero3113 Long Island, NYPosts: 1,754Member ✭✭✭✭
    Nothing better than an easy and free fix!!!!
  • aero3113aero3113 Long Island, NYPosts: 1,754Member ✭✭✭✭
    Maybe put a tie wrap around it to prevent it from happening again if the clip is broken.
  • ivy282ivy282 Illinois Posts: 4Member
    I have sort of same issue, what location was that connector found in? I have a 282 have power to switch and circuit breaker. When I hit button to open power drops out. Like I have a bad ground?
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